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andrev
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[-] [Fixed in v2.0.5] installing and html display
« on: November 18, 2005, 01:54:54 AM »

I had no problem installing the beta version. One suggestion though: I used the "auto" feature on my ftp (flash fxp) to upload files in the correct mode. This sure is a lot faster than specifying binary and ascii on a file-by-file basis. Maybe that option would be worth menioning in the install instructions. Also, in your instructions the links were missing from: More information on FTP upload modes (ascii or binary) and also from More information on Mac "Translate ISO Characters" issue

Another small installation comment: after following the install instructions and viewing snippetmaster in the browser for the first time, I ended up in the snippetmaster folder and at first there seemed no way to get to the root folder to access my website files. Then I discovered it was a case of just editing the user. It worked perfectly but perhaps this could also be explained a little more clearly upfront.

Something else I have discovered is that this version of snippetmaster does not recognise html code like this: <p align="left"><font face="Verdana" size="4" color ="#FF0000">HELLO</font></p> It renders this as <p align="left"><HELLO</p> This is a bit unfortunate for somebody who is editing their page, because after saving any edit their font attributes will have changed. The snippetmaster recognises the font styles perfectly if it is coded as follows:
<p align="left" style="font-family:Verdana; font-size:14; color:#FF0000">HELLO</p>

I think this is a bit of a problem (bug??) as many people (eg Front Page users) will have pages coded as per the first example and they could find the results disturbing.
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[-] Re: installing and html display
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2005, 08:45:11 AM »


I had no problem installing the beta version. One suggestion though: I used the "auto" feature on my ftp (flash fxp) to upload files in the correct mode. This sure is a lot faster than specifying binary and ascii on a file-by-file basis. Maybe that option would be worth menioning in the install instructions. Also, in your instructions the links were missing from: More information on FTP upload modes (ascii or binary) and also from More information on Mac "Translate ISO Characters" issue


This is fixed in the new 2.0.5 release. It's actually no longer needed to use "binary" mode for the transfer of the encoded .php files.  Very Happy  Thus, it is now possible to use "auto" mode for the ftp program.  I forgot to update the docs, so thanks for finding this!  Smile


Another small installation comment: after following the install instructions and viewing snippetmaster in the browser for the first time, I ended up in the snippetmaster folder and at first there seemed no way to get to the root folder to access my website files. Then I discovered it was a case of just editing the user. It worked perfectly but perhaps this could also be explained a little more clearly upfront.


Hmm.. good point.  Do you think it would be better to "start" the Admin user in the web root folder?  Or do you think it would be better to just improve the documentation for this value when installing?  Currently, there is a little help popup that is available, but I have a feeling not many people actually rollover the help icon and read it...

Let me know what you think...


Something else I have discovered is that this version of snippetmaster does not recognise html code like this: <p align="left"><font face="Verdana" size="4" color ="#FF0000">HELLO</font></p> It renders this as <p align="left"><HELLO</p> This is a bit unfortunate for somebody who is editing their page, because after saving any edit their font attributes will have changed. The snippetmaster recognises the font styles perfectly if it is coded as follows:
<p align="left" style="font-family:Verdana; font-size:14; color:#FF0000">HELLO</p>

I think this is a bit of a problem (bug??) as many people (eg Front Page users) will have pages coded as per the first example and they could find the results disturbing.


Hmm.. good find.  I'll see if I can get this fixed, as I certainly don't want the editor to be re-writing code!   Shocked 



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[-] Re: installing and html display
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2005, 09:28:33 AM »


Something else I have discovered is that this version of snippetmaster does not recognise html code like this: <p align="left"><font face="Verdana" size="4" color ="#FF0000">HELLO</font></p> It renders this as <p align="left"><HELLO</p> This is a bit unfortunate for somebody who is editing their page, because after saving any edit their font attributes will have changed. The snippetmaster recognises the font styles perfectly if it is coded as follows:
<p align="left" style="font-family:Verdana; font-size:14; color:#FF0000">HELLO</p>


OK, I would like to discuss this a bit more with you, since you seem to know how "styles" work, etc...  Smile

The new editor is designed to output code that is fully XHTML 1.0 standards compliant.  This means that invalid tags will be stripped, etc...

Do you think it's better to "turn off" this ability and just have the new editor work with whatever is presented to it?  (ie: No XHTML compliancy at all?)

Or perhaps have this as an option that admin can turn on/off in the Editor Group area?  (With default being off?)

What do you think?

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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2005, 09:44:47 AM »

Hi Henri,

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Hmm.. good point.  Do you think it would be better to "start" the Admin user in the web root folder?  Or do you think it would be better to just improve the documentation for this value when installing?  Currently, there is a little help popup that is available, but I have a feeling not many people actually rollover the help icon and read it...

You might remember, I had the same question when I first installed the Beta version. I my opinion, I would by default allow the admin user to start in the web root folder. This will safe you a lot time, not answering the same question over and over again.
Not every user reads the doku so deeply, first they (we) try to install, until there is a problem Smile


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XHTML 1.0 standards compliant. ...Or perhaps have this as an option that admin can turn on/off in the Editor Group area?  (With default being off?)

This is a good idear to give the option!!!! AND By default being off would make live easier for most users!

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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2005, 10:23:41 AM »

OK, I have fixed both these issue in the new beta release v2.0.5 (soon to be posted -- I'll send an announcement to the beta list when it's ready.)

I decided to default to no rewritting of VALID html code, but any non-valid html code will be changed.  (ie: If you forget quotes around an element attribute, or whatever..)

I'll also eventually (not right now) make the "enforcing" rules into a configuration option that the admin users can choose from the Editor Group area.  Smile

I also set the default Starting Folder for admin user to the web root. 



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andrev
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[-] Re: [Fixed in v2.0.5] installing and html display
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2005, 12:27:04 PM »

Great Henri. I think those are wise decisions.
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andre
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[-] Re: [Fixed in v2.0.5] installing and html display
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2005, 03:13:55 PM »

I changed start folder in account to web root which allows me to open files in the root folder but the  text accross the top still says domain/snippetmaster/test.html and saving the page says saved to domain/snippetmaster/test although it is saved into the web root is this now fixed or is it something  I am setting wrong
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andrev
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[-] Re: [Fixed in v2.0.5] installing and html display
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2005, 09:29:38 AM »

Hi Henri. I can confirm that the html display issue I raised has been fixed in v2.0.5
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